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Case discussion: How would you treat this patient? [24 April]
In this week’s case discussion, submitted by Dr Renuka Ranasinghe, we look at a 76-year-old female patient who presented with a large ulcerating area on her neck.
What is your diagnosis, and how would you manage this lesion?
Update
Here is the histopathology report (apologies for the cut-off edge), plus surgery photos.
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Ulcerated red nodule: malignant.
Biopsy or immediate excision. My prov dx would be poorly differentiated SCC
Appearances strongly suggest malignancy. Possibly BCC.
For punch biopsy then excision according to histology.
Would like to know more history. I’ve seen similar – usually SCC.
Would like to know more history. I’ve seen similar before -usually SCC but ulcerated BCCs can look like this.
Hi Peter
History is important in some cases – but how would it alter your plan here?
If the patient said it had always been there – would you leave this lesion alone with no follow up?
Nodular BCC . Appropriate excision. Histopath
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Nasty lesion – could be a amelanotic melanoma! I am unable to see too many polymorphic vessels but higher diff scc is did. excision by with 2 mmm margins preferred urgently or even a punch on the day to exclud mm
This looks like a BCC, but definitely needs excision. It seems to have a large horizontal pale surrounding that may define the edge. I use my nail to find the edge, but also a punch biopsy often makes the edge more obvious. If I was certain of the boundary I would excise it (probably horizontally, depending on skin laxity) with a 2mm margin. This lesion is quite advanced and may need radiotherapy, depending on the pathology. I’m also concerned about the 2 pigmented lesion on the right, that may also need biopsy.
Heather the pigmentation around is atrophy and inflammation from Radiotherapy she had over 20 years ago and cannot remember.
appears to be a moderately differentiated SCC likely or a poorly differentiated one, needs a punch done 4mm for diagnosis and then aim a flap
Hi Ashwin
Is there any reason you would aim for a flap rather than primary closure?
The aim should always be the simplest procedure that treats the lesion.
Hi Terry her upper chest skin was so thin and atrophic , the defect post excision was too large for primary closure. Thanks for posting my cases
Raised , popular . Rolled up edges, bleeding, at places necrotic tissue
My first differential diagnosis will be SCC
Second possibility is modular hypertrophic BCC
Shave biopsy then ezixion. Probable SCC
Clinically this does not look good. This is a non-pigmented nodular ulcerated vascular lesion.
Dermatoscopic image = an ulcerated raised vascular lesion with some red/cherry red clods/as well as structureless red/cherry red areas. The clods have some linear irregular centered blood vessels. (This is not normal) Some exudate at the margin.
IMPRESSION= an amelanotic nodular melanoma vs a merkel cell carcinoma vs a poorly differentiated SCC vs an atypical fibroxanthoma
PLAN = urgent excision biopsy
Agree
I agree with this assessment and would also add a possibility of a cutaneous metastasis – we don’t know anything about the medical history of this elderly lady.
A nodular ulcerated vascular lesion as well as some red/cherry red areas.Malignancy until proven otherwise– therefore excision ,with consideration to include the possible extension in the 2 o’clock position.
The patient biopsy or immediate excision
Pyogenic granuloma